Script
Here is The Daily FM summary of The Ben Shapiro Show that aired on Thursday November 12th. This episode was an extended behind-the-scenes conversation about Ben Shapiro’s new Daily Wire film, “Confession,” with Michael Knowles, Matt Walsh, and Andrew Klavan. The group’s central claim was that the Stalin-era prison drama represents a step beyond the usual “conservative film”: a serious work of art that puts story, character, performance, and emotion before political messaging, while still making an explicitly anti-communist and pro-Christian argument. [1]
Shapiro described the film as a contained drama largely set in two prison rooms, centered on a broken Russian literature professor, played by Rob Lowe, and an interrogator played by James Franco. He said the premise and themes draw from Arthur Koestler’s “Darkness at Noon,” Dostoevsky’s “The Brothers Karamazov,” Soviet history, and Timothy Snyder’s account of the Holodomor. The film’s underlying conflict, he argued, is not merely that communism produces bad economics, but that totalitarian ideology demands the replacement of God and conscience with the authority of the state.
The other hosts were strikingly enthusiastic. Walsh said the movie succeeds because it does not simply make an argument; it makes viewers feel the stakes through a flawed protagonist who must seek redemption. Klavan called it a breakthrough and a relief, saying previous conservative and Christian movies too often felt like messages packaged as films rather than actual dramas. They particularly praised the ending, which they openly spoiled: the protagonist’s final “confession” is both an admission of a crime and a declaration of faith. The group saw that double meaning as the heart of the movie’s religious message—that real faith costs something and requires action, sacrifice, and repentance.
Shapiro said he deliberately gave the hero serious moral failures rather than presenting a spotless Christian figure. He credited Dostoevsky and Tolstoy for showing that redemption only has weight when the person being redeemed is genuinely broken. In his view, the hero’s decision to accept consequences rather than escape is what prevents the story from becoming sentimental.
A major topic was the cast. Shapiro said Rob Lowe asked to play the ruined professor after reading the script and was willing to shave his head and be made deliberately unattractive for the part. Shapiro called Lowe’s work the best performance of his career. The panel also singled out Franco’s villainous turn, Emile Hirsch, Nick Nolte, Brad Dourif, Jennifer Jason Leigh, and Richard Brake. One notable production anecdote: an originally cast actor died during filming, and Brad Dourif joined at the last minute.
They also praised director Václav Marhoul, who grew up under communism. Marhoul shot the film on 35-millimeter stock, avoided a conventional musical score, and used movement, lighting, and carefully staged performances to keep the confined setting from feeling static. The hosts described a particularly unsettling scene in which the protagonist is locked in a tiny standing cell, based on real Soviet prison practices.
The most surprising aside came when Shapiro revealed he was having brunch with Rob Lowe when Charlie Kirk was shot, a detail he said had become fodder for a Candace Owens-related conspiracy theory and supposed reward. The panel laughed it off, then returned to their larger pitch: “Confession,” they argued, is intended as both an entertaining drama and an invitation to revisit classic literature, religious conviction, and the human costs of authoritarianism. Thank you for listening to The Ben Shapiro Show in 3 minutes from The Daily FM. See you next time!
- The Ben Shapiro Show: Friendly Fire: The Making of Confession
...we've been pitching this a little bit dishonestly. We. We've been calling this a narrative movie, a work of drama from the Daily Wire, when, in fact, this is yet another documentary, albeit one that is just peering into our future. You got this big hit movie, Confession. Speaker C: Yeah, it's very exciting. I mean, obviously, for us as a company, it's really exciting. It's exciting for me on a personal level. Cause whenever you write something and then you watch it materialize, it's an amazing thing. It's my first time doing this. I know Drew has done this before, but you spend a certain amount of time writing a thing, and then the amount of effort that everyone else puts into making that thing real is pretty flattering. It's kind of an honor, the fact that we, as a company, are putting out something that, you know, obviously I'm speaking about a film I wrote, but I...
